Switch off the iTunes 8 genre browser

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Does anyone know if it is still possible to turn off the iTunes store links (arrows in a circle)? This used to be a preference.
Yes, it is. Again, it's a hidden preference via the defaults system:

defaults write com.apple.itunes show-store-arrow-links -bool FALSE

Presumably -bool TRUE will re-enable them. The old standby to make those links instead select an artist or album within the library rather than the store (defaults write com.apple.iTunes invertStoreLinks -bool YES) still seems to work, too.
Thank you so much! It drives me crazy when Apple (or other companies) remove features. I wish I could move the genre column to the far right instead of the left. If that were the case I'd probably leave it visible.
and is there still no way to browse by composer ?

sigh...

Glen
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Thank you! I was only pulling out my hair out over this less than an hour before I saw your post linked from DF!
Andy
This is the first thing I do when I open iTunes - turn off the genres pane.

Filed a bug report for this. No reason why you shouldn't be able to turn it off.
oh thank goodness! I was getting downright angsty about this!
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I presume this is something other than turning off the genre column using the command-J shortcut?
oh, I get it

I had no idea people used that

oh well
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Ta for this. Was mildly grumpy when I couldn't find the checkbox.
Stupid question, but why do so many people not like navigating by genre? I do it all the time; sometimes I'm in the mood for Rock, sometimes Jazz, or Classical, etc. It also makes it easier for finding something specific.


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jdmuys: I believe you can browse by composer by using the new grid view http://www.apple.com/itunes/whatsnew/
The new grid view, as well as the old list view, lets user list their music by composer, not browse by composer. In essence, as an classical music lover, I'd rather have the center column in the browser be "Composer" than "Artist".

Also the grid view falls short. I have 68 albums for Johann Sebastian Bach. Then what? I cannot list them all or select one of them. It's better in list view, sorted by composer, but there, it falls short too, as each album uses A LOT of screen real estate (one line per track specifically) and to list all my Bach album, I have to scroll through far too many pages.


I'm not as as savy as some of you are on here. Could someone tell me how to open a Terminal Window in XP. The "genres" bar in the browser is making me go insane.
"Why do so many people not like navigating by genre?"

In my case it's because--even though I am pretty strict and careful about the artist, track and album metadata--the genre metadata is all over the place. And the reason it's all over the place is that there are too many albums in my library that don't fit neatly into any one genre. Tags would be better, but even if that were supported I probably couldn't be bothered tagging everything. So the genre column is useless for me.
Thanks for all the comments. That Mr Gruber is good at driving traffic to a site, isn't he?

Tackling a few of the points in the comments. Andy wrote "No reason why you shouldn't be able to turn it off." Well, you can, just via a hidden preference rather than the UI. Given how bloated the iTunes 7 preferences were, I can forgive Apple, although obviously it would be much nicer if there was documentation that told you why a preference had gone missing, and how to replicate it via the defaults system. (Bare Bones are great at this- just look at the BBEdit 9 release notes.)

cozen answered his own question, but to be clear: this post is about the Genre column in the three-pane browser in list view, not the column in the main list, which is indeed accessible via Command J and which makes it easy to toggle the visibility of various fields.

jdmuys: no, I don't think there are any hidden preferences for browsing by composer. Personally I've not got much classical music, but I can see why those who do find iTunes such an annoying tool for organising it. Sorry not to be able to be more help.

steve: mjs gave a good answer to your question, which I'd agree with. I'd also note that while artist and album information are (almost always) things that everyone can agree on, genres are much more subjective, which makes them - for me, anyway - far less useful.

zgib: the instructions in the main post are for Mac OS X only. For Windows XP (and probably Vista), you need to back up, then edit, the iTunesPrefs.xml file in C:\Documents and Settings\USERNAME\Application Data\Apple Computer\iTunes with an application like Notepad++ and add the following two lines:

<key>show-genre-when-browsing</key>
<data>False</data>

There's a more detailed howto on editing hidden preferences on Windows in this iPhone Alley post. Good luck.
Thanks for the replies on that "why not genres?" question of mine. I suppose I do understand how genres might be subjective, as I've had my own organization issues coming up against this. My solution thus far is to use groupings.

For example, I used to have separate genres like Rock, New Wave, Punk, etc etc. They became useless, as I always wanted to listen to them as overarching genre. So I ended up putting them all under "Rock", and giving them their granular genre under grouping. My Jazz genre now encompasses Jazz, Be Bop, Vocal, Big Band., etc.

This way, I can easily listen to all of my jazz-encompassed music, but if I really just want to listen to Vocal, I can plunk that out.
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Thanks.

Anyone else noticed the "iTunes Pass" mention in the Store pane of iTunes' preferences? Maybe it's something I've just not heard of, or maybe it's a cat slipped out of the bag…
Mint. I was thinking of reinstalling v7
If apple is collecting metadata for most music libraries, they're in a
good position to finally fix the genre problem. They could collect,
[Awesome 6-apart software ate half my post. Wheee!]

If apple is collecting metadata for most music libraries, they're in a
good position to finally fix the genre problem. They could collect,
normalize, sum, average the genre tag for every song they can and
then redistribute a little mini tag cloud to users. Without a lot of
input, the tag is currently useless.
Yes. Different
To Paul Mison, thank you, you've bloody saved my anger.
I took your windows instructions, and I did it again but this time used show-store-arrow-links instead of the genre one. Also, it took me a few tries to get it, as iTunes kept deleting the lines I added when I launched the app. So persist, guys, if this is happening to you. Read what Paul Mison said above.
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@Steve: I use very specific sub genres also, and for the over-arching genres I use the grouping field

@jdmuys: If you want to browse by composer, simply right click (or option click) on the columns headers at the top of the iTunes window, then tick composers and remove whatever you don't use, then click on that column and it will automatically sort. This has been a feature of iTunes since I've been using it. Unfortunately on Windows :(, but now Mac OS!

@Paul Mison: Many Thanks! I had no idea there were hidden options, I've never used the iTunes store, so having the arrows link to my library is a much more useful feature.
Are there any other good hidden preferences?
Just wanted to offer tremendous thanks for your Genre turn-off fix. I'll be sending many a friend to your site.
kay
Props mate. I agree with everything mjs said.
I really dont understand how apple is working lately.
everything they are doing seems hasty and hap hazard.
and not fully thought through, ie this little annoyance.
and also, if you have manage to figure out another command
for that itunes arrows, i be very pleased.

does anyone know how to change the genre grouping picture on the new itunes?
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THANKS! But how do I open a new Terminal window (for Mac OS)? Noob here.
wax
i dont use genres, but just made several playlists for rock, metal, punk, chill, rap, techno, etc. besides theres a genre called 'queer'. 'nough said.

thanks for the info.
BJ
Any chance of an idiot-level run through onhow you do this (for Mac)? I've no idea how to deal with the code helpfully written by Paul
Thanks.
John Muir: I think the iTunes Pass is a Season Pass, which lets (American) store users buy an entire series of a TV show at once.

naddy465: a bit of searching turned up this post about iTunes 8 which includes information - for Windows - on how to add images for new genres. If you're willing to copy your replacement images in after every iTunes upgrade, I imagine that would work. The equivalent path on the Mac is /Applications/iTunes.app/Contents/Resources/ and they should be 256 pixel square JPG files.

paulix, BJ: Go to the Utilities folder inside the Applications folder, and open the Terminal.app program there. It will launch with a big empty window with a prompt at the top left corner. You should be able to paste the command and restart iTunes to have the required effect. Alternatively, there's a preference pane called Secrets that allows you to edit the defaults for many apps without fiddling around with the Terminal at all.
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Reminds me of windows "upgrading" to Vista and screwing up lots of good oldschool features. I would just be happy with a napster subscription type itunes. I don't care to own the music... I just want good music exactly when I want it. Their automix sucks though. I think the ultimate program would be itunes with subscription, and the kick assness of pandora.


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